Papicock Podcast = Episode 16 - Tommy Chong
On this very special episode of Papicock Podcast (Recorded on July 25, 2022) Comedian Victor Pacheco sits down with LEGENDARY comedian, actor, writer, director, stoner icon: MR. TOMMY CHONG!!!! On this episode topics include: where Victor is located, homelessness/hobos, Victor discusses his brokenness and weight loss, Victor asks Tommy why marijuana users are stigmatized and reveals his marijuana history; Tommy explains the history of cannabis, marijuana, hemp, and racist law; Tommy explains how discriminatory practices happen around the world, Tommy explains the physical world and the teachings of the I Ching philosophy, The Spanish Inquisition, racism, No Mexicans in Canada, Catholic Church apologizes for murdering indigenous people, Catholicism, origins of Christianity, God is spiritual, Tommy beautifully explains the spiritual world of love and energy, we are all evolving, we are eternal beings, knowledge to know why we are here, Tommy is blessed, we are only here temporarily, Victor laughs uncontrollably to Tommy describing our lives as a “semester”, Victor talks about his mom and being Catholic, how religions make money, Tommy goes deep on religion, Tommy explains being on podcasts, Tommy makes the story of Jesus born in the manger relatable; Tommy holds up The Master Speaks: The Principles of Spiritual Living and Healing by Joel S. Goldsmith and explains how he was turned on to the book and it’s teachings; Tommy reveals his history in Motown and his involvement as a producer, failing Algebra in prison, Tommy explains some personal family history involving quarantine, nurses and booby fixation, The Golden Key, power to bring out the soul from anyone like Santa Claus, Tommy becoming friends with one of the feds who busted him, Tommy recalls his experience getting raided by the feds, Tommy’s wife had some choice words for the feds when denying her Starbucks, Shelby being responsible for Cheech and Chong and using acid, Victor’s marriage advice with acid, Tommy recalls owning a nightclub back in the day that Shelby made popular and successful, Victor asks Tommy if he is still an LSD enthusiast, Tommy tells us about Bobby Taylor and being in a band that was signed by Motown, Diana Ross booty call, Tommy wrote a Motown record, getting discovered by Lou Adler, Victor discovering Tommy Chong on Half Baked, That 70s Show, Zootopia changed Tommy’s life, Tommy’s history of bodybuilding, Tommy’s reason to wanting to come to California, Tommy went to the original Gold’s Gym, Victor asks Tommy how he kept his morale high during his bout with cancer and if he used RSO, Tommy is positive that he caught cancer going to prison, going holistic while having cancer, Victor asks questions about prostate exams, prostate exams are never gentle and you are violated, Tommy named one of his medical devices “The Donald”, medical procedure that saved Tommy’s life, Tommy shares a story about his friend Bernie and his sexual experiences and how it related to has own experience, Tommy tells hilarious Priest joke, Victor shares why some people have unfriended him, Victor tells Tommy how to make Mexican men uncomfrotable, Cheech was the first Mexican Tommy ever met and it was a revelation, Victor confesses to Tommy that he use to think he was Mexican, Victor admits that he use to think he himself was white and his dad was black, stupidity is the great equalizer, Tommy recalls directing and writing Up In Smoke, Tommy reveals how to be successful in Hollywood, Victor misheard Tommy saying that Cheech is Jewish, whoever writes and directs holds the power, Cheech and Chong made four movies together, Cheech went on his own to do Born In East LA and breaking up, Victor gets emotional and frustrated about gratitude in the entertainment business, Cheech realizing he doesn’t have to play “that Chicano” anymore after success, Victor tells Tommy about smoking his brand of weed, Tommy admits he owes everything to cannabis/marijuana, when Cheech and Chong started they didn’t do weed jokes, a comedians job, coming up with the lowrider character, the origin of the opening scene of Up In Smoke, being told that they are the closest thing to Lenny Bruce, Victor reveals that he wrote a screenplay, stand-up comedy with a partner versus stand-up solo; Victor asks advice for making stoner comedy movie = having a cast and have it read, recorded, registering the script; for musicals you need tunes that are recognizable versus original, bring the script to life; Cheech is a genius for designing his iconic outfit, have a vision, have a good character, envision how they look, get it on tape, and sell that; Victor talks about his writing mentor and experience writing, Victor gives Linda Marcus Smith a shoutout for helping make this episode possible, Victor reveals how insecure he is about Tommy not wanting to do his podcast, Victor reveals how nervous he was about this interview, Victor asks question about why Cheech and Chong didn’t focuses on Chinese stereotypes, Tommy explains tribalism, Tommy’s pachucho inspirations, friends being brutally honest about your comedy, Victor and Tommy talk about heroin, halfway house stories, Tommy and Victor recall funeral/memorial stories, Tommy delivered a hilarious eulogy for his former Italian landlord, Victor asks Tommy if he has any ideas on how drug education in the American public school system should be handled, Tommy having his children read to him when he had cancer, Tommy reads an excerpt from The Master Speaks, Victor reveals he had multiple epiphanies during his time with Tommy, Tommy recommends Emmet Fox’s The Ten Commandments, his other works, and anything Joel S. Goldsmith, Tommy reveals that the secret of life is helping others, Victor reveals he feels empowered and how much he loves Tommy Chong, Tommy says “Let’s do it again” and Victor invites Tommy to come back next week, but will he?
